Schizophrenia and seasonal depression: more than just the winter blues

January can be a tough month, especially in Minnesota. It’s often brutally cold, the days are short, and holidays are over. As I mentioned in a previous blog, the experience of depression is people with schizophenia can be overlooked. For some people, lack of sunlight during the depths of winter hit especially hard.

If you notice yourself feeling down, sleepy, unmotivated, and sluggish during the months with the shortest days of the year, you may want to look into asking your doctor about what to do. Remember, with seasonal symptoms, help may come in the form of a lightbox or other treatments rather than just more medications. As always, talk to your doctor if you have concerns. See this article for more.

Resources 2

Several weeks ago I posted about urgent mental health resources for people with schizophrenia and related disorders. This post is a follow-up, a post about less urgent, more long-term resources. Please note some of these resources may not be available for those who live outside of Minnesota. Also, while I have tried to make sure all this information is updated and accurate, sometimes things change without my knowledge, please let me know if there are any errors in this list.

Getting yourself or your loved one the right treatment as soon as possible will minimize the illness’s impact. However, because of the nature of the illness, some people with schizophrenia don’t believe they have a problem and resist the treatment they need. The book “I Am Not Sick, I Don’t Need Help” by Xavier Amador gives some very useful advice on this subject.

In this second list is information about therapists, CADI waivers, home health nurses, ARMHS workers, and Community Support Programs. Look in the coming weeks for part 3, which addresses housing, foster care providers, PCAs, and job training.


Many people with a schizophrenia disorder can benefit from some sort of talk therapy. They often do best in a large clinic with clinicians who are experienced with their specific issues; I specialize in working with people with psychotic disorders and do individual, family, and group therapy at Psych Recovery in St. Paul. Here is a list of clinics that commonly provide services to people with schizophrenia:

CADI waivers:

Community Alternatives for Disabled Individuals (CADI) Waivers are a separate program that offers funding for home and community-based services with the goal of keeping people with serious mental illness out of the hospital or other institutions. More information can be found here and here. If possible, you want to get a case manager/social worker to help you with this application, but if none is available, the client can fill out the application here. For a list of county offices that may be able to assist you, call 1‑866‑333‑2466.

Home health nurses:

Home health care nurses are nurses who come to the client’s home and set up their medications in a weekly pill container. The nurse can also assess the client’s physical and mental health. These home health nurses can be requested by physicians (in order to get covered by insurance) or a case manager. Another way to get a home health nurse is to request a waivered program assessment from the county. There are several programs that the consumer may be able to access and the county is required to complete an assessment if one is requested. The waiver programs offer financial programs for in-home services to help individuals with mental or physical disabilities continue to live in their homes. To request a waiver program, call the county at the number listed in the case manager section. Finally, a person can call a home health nursing agency (e.g. Abbey Health Care, Aspen Medical, Dakota Valley) themselves and ask for an assessment as well.

Adult Rehabilitative Mental Health Services (ARMHS) workers:

If a client has Medical Assistance, they may qualify for an ARMHS worker. A case manager can make the referral, or the client can call to an agency that offers ARMHS services. The referring agency will do an intake and assess the need and do a treatment plan. Usually issues that allow an ARMHS worker to assist is with paperwork, budgeting, maintaining an apartment, and other independent living skills. For a list of ARMHS providers by county, see here.

Community Support Programs

These are programs offering various resources like case management, housing assistance, and drop-in centers. Drop-in centers-these are like clubs for people with mental illnesses, they are places where people can go where people won’t judge them, there are many recreational activities and social opportunities available through these centers. The following is a list of drop-in centers, listed by county.

Anoka County

  • Bridgeview CSP at 7920 University Ave. NE Fridley, MN 55432 call 763-783-7440 (free transportation available)

Carver County

Dakota County

  • Guild CSP at 130 South Wabasha Street, Suite 90,St. Paul, MN 55107, call 651- 291-0067
  • Horizons CSP at 3450 O’Leary Lane, Eagan, 55123, call 651-395-5783

Ramsey County

  • Resource CSP at 651 University Ave. W., St. Paul, 55104, call 612-752-8670

Hennepin County

  • Charaka CSP at 7888 12th Avenue South, Bloomington, 55425, call 612-752-8350
  • Lighthouse CSP at 1825 Chicago Ave. S, Minneapolis, 55404, call 612-752-8200
  • Northside CSP at 1309 Girard Ave. N, Minneapolis, 55411, call 612-521-2116
  • Plymouth Drop-In at 1900 Nicollet Ave., Minneapolis, MN 55403 call 612-977-1282
  • Northwest CSP at 7000 57th Avenue North, Suite 100, in Crystal, call 612-752-8300
  • Seward CSP at 2105 Minnehaha Ave., Minneapolis, 55404, call 612-333-0331
  • Vail Place-Hopkins at 809 Mainstreet, Hopkins, 55343, call 952-938-9622
  • Vail Place-Minneapolis at 1412 W. 36th St., Minneapolis, 55408, call 612-824-8061

Scott County

  • Anchor Center at 742 Canterbury Road S., Shakopee, 55430, call Cindy at 952-496-8541

Resources: How to Get What You Need for Recovery

There are a variety of resources available to people with a schizophrenia / schizoaffective disorder, but I have found that people are often not given much guidance as to what these resources are or how to access them. Often people tell me that they don’t even know what they or their family member will need. So I have compiled a brief summary of some of the more important resources for recovery. Please note some of these resources may not be available for those who live outside of Minnesota. Also, while I have tried to make sure all this information is updated and accurate, sometimes things change without my knowledge, please let me know if there are any errors in this list.

Getting yourself or your loved one the right treatment as soon as possible will minimize the illness’s impact. However, because of the nature of the illness, some people with schizophrenia don’t believe they have a problem and resist the treatment they need. The book “I Am Not Sick, I Don’t Need Help” by Xavier Amador gives some very useful advice on this subject.

Due to the list being so long, I have separated it into two parts. This first part lists more urgent needs, the second part will address resources a person will benefit from over the long term.

In this first list is information about psychiatrists, NAMI, Social Security Disability, medical insurance, mental health case managers, and crisis resources.

Psychiatrists: The vast majority of people with a schizophrenia disorder do much better on antipsychotic medications. Your family member will need to get connected with a psychiatrist for these medications. Keep in mind that there is a shortage of psychiatrists, so there may be long waits to get in to see one. If your family member is in crisis, take them to the ER. Sometimes family practice doctors will be willing to prescribe antipsychotic medications for a limited time while a client waits to get in to see a psychiatrist. Your best bet for finding a psychiatrist is through your family member’s insurance–call or look up online and ask for a referral.

NAMI: The National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI) of Minnesota is a non-profit organization dedicated to improving the lives of children and adults with mental illnesses and their families. NAMI Minnesota offers education, support and advocacy. NAMI Minnesota offers more than 500 free classes and presentations and over 60 support groups each year, and was recently recognized with prestigious national and state awards for its advocacy successes. I have heard many people say that the support groups and education classes offered have been of enormous help to them. There is a specific program called Transitions for education and support for young adults and their families, as well as a youth-specific website. Contact Andrea Lee for the youth program at 651.645.2948 ext. 106, e-mail, or for general classes or support groups, go to or call 651-645-2948.

I highly recommend the NAMI resources, and encourage all of my clients and their families to get in touch with them.

Social Security Disability benefits: Many people with a schizophrenia disorder will not be able to work full time. If this is the case for you or your family member, it’s probably a good idea to apply for disability benefits to get some financial help. Keep in mind that these benefits can be cancelled at any time if your ability to work improves enough that you no longer need them. There are two general types of disability benefits, SSI and SSDI. If you have worked a certain number of hours, you’ll qualify for SSDI, if not, you’ll qualify for SSI. But you don’t have to worry about which one you qualify for, they can figure that out for you. To apply for disability benefits, go to the government online application or call 1-800-772-1213. (A smaller number of people may qualify for a program called RSDI, see here for a further explanation.)

Sometimes people’s first application will be denied and they need some extra legal help in getting the right information in their application. If you are denied, call a law firm that deals with these issues. There are some that do pro bono or sliding-scale fees, such as Southern Minnesota Regional Legal Services (651-222-4731).

Medical Insurance–Medicare, MinnesotaCare, and Medical Assistance (MA): It is vital that people with a schizophrenia disorder have some sort of health insurance. If they are not working due to their illness and aren’t on a family member’s plan, they are likely eligible for Medicare, MInnesotaCare, and/or Medical Assistance, which is Minnesota’s Medicaid program. Apply for Medicare through their online application here, MinnesotaCare here, and apply for MA through their online application here.

Mental health case managers: Case managers are trained people, usually social workers, who are very familiar with the “system,” in that they know the ins and outs of how to get clients certain services and benefits. To apply depends on the county that the client lives in:

  • Anoka County: call 763-422-7326 or 763-422-3283
  • Carver County: call 952 442-4437
  • Dakota County: call 651-554-6000 or 651-554-6424
  • Hennepin County: Call Front Door Access at 612-348-4111
  • Isanti County: a provider (therapist, psychiatrist, etc) can call 763-689-1711 for a referral
  • Ramsey County: call 651-266-7890
  • Scott County: call 952-445-7751
  • Washington County: call 651-430-6484.

Crisis resources:

Sometimes a person with a schizophrenia disorder will experience symptoms getting out of control, and often they are not able to get in to see a psychiatrist the same day. If a person seems overwhelmed by symptoms, seems at a point that they might harm themselves (or others), or if they are not able to care for themselves due to symptoms, they are in crisis. There are several options if someone is in crisis. They can always call 911 or go the Emergency Room of their preferred hospital, they will be assessed and possibly admitted to the psychiatric unit of that hospital.

If it doesn’t seem like the person needs hospitalization, you could call a crisis service. One such services is Crisis Connection: 612-379-6363 or 1-866-379-6363, from any location. Alternatively, you could use this online crisis resource locator.

The following is a list of crisis numbers for counties in and around the Twin Cities:

  • Anoka County-Mental Health Crisis Outreach-763-755-3801
  • Carver County- Mental Health Crisis Program, available 24-7, provides both phone assessments and on-site crisis management. 952-442-7601
  • Chisago County – Crisis Line 1-800-523-3333
  • Dakota County Crisis Response Unit at 952-891-7171, which provides 24-hour telephone or on-site response
  • Hennepin County Community Outreach for Psychiatric Emergencies (C.O.P.E) To reach our mobile team, call 612-596-1223, available 24-7.
  • Isanti County- Crisis Line 1-800-523-3333
  • Mille Lacs County – Crisis Line 1-800-523-3333
  • Ramsey County, 24/7 Crisis Hotline 651-266-7900. Also, with more limited hours, Urgent Care for Adult Mental Health. Walk-in crisis services at 402 East University Avenue, St Paul, MN 55130, M-F 8am-7pm, Sat 11am-3pm.
  • Scott County– Mental Health Crisis Program, available 24-7, provides both phone assessments and on-site crisis management. 952-442-7601
  • Washington County-crisis outreach at 651-777-5222

If you live outside the Twin Cities area, here is a list of crisis numbers, listed by the county that the person in crisis lives in.

Also see Resources Part 2, which covers information on therapists, home health nurses, CADI waivers, ARMHS workers, housing, vocational training, and community support programs.

New results for treatment of negative symptoms in schizophrenia

Boy sitting among daisies

Most people associate the word “schizophrenia” with its positive symptoms–hearing voices, seeing visions, having paranoid thoughts. However, negative symptoms can be as difficult as positive symptoms. Negative symptoms refer to symptoms where something is less than expected, such as one’s face showing less emotions than average, one having less ability to get things started, and having less interest in activities than one used to.

For years, there have been medications that target positive symptoms, but there aren’t many medications that target negative symptoms, and they are not always effective. However, the research continues, and now there’s more hope on the horizon for treatment of negative symptoms. An article cited on from the European College of Neuropsychopharma-cology sheds more light on these medications and what they can do.

Small Talk 3: Ending a Conversation

Sometimes it can feel awkward to end a conversation, even more so here in Minnesota where we have “the long Minnesota good-bye,” which drags it out further. However, you can certainly develop skills to make ending conversations easier and smoother. There are many reasons for ending a conversation, including running out of time, needing to go somewhere else, running out of things to say, or the other person seems bored or distracted. When you feel like it’s time to end the conversation, try these suggestions:

  1. wait until a pause in the conversation or the other person is finished speaking
  2. use a nonverbal gesture like standing up, moving toward the door, looking at your watch or picking up your coat or glancing away
  3. do a verbal summary of what you’ve been talking about, like, “I’m glad your sister is feeling better,” or “yeah, I’m tired of watching the Vikings lose, too”
  4. make a closing statement, like, “Well, I have to get going” or “Anyway, got to get back to work” or “Well, it’s been fun talking,” Make sure they understand the conversation is ending, like they wind up what they were saying or say “Ok, see you later.” If they don’t, be more direct and say something like, “It’s been fun talking, but I have to go now.”
  5. say “good-bye” or “see you soon” and start walking away
  6. sometimes people will miss these cues or will do the long Minnesota good-bye and keep talking and even follow you while still talking—at this point, make sure to keep walking, somewhat slowly, end eye contact with them, and don’t start any new topics. Eventually they’ll realize the conversation is over.

Other helpful resources for small talk skills are:

a productive meeting

Social Skills Recovery in Schizophrenia

making connections

Often, when a person’s schizophrenia symptoms begin to emerge, one of the signs is social withdrawal and isolation. The person finds conversations more difficult to follow and his or her thinking can be constantly interrupted by symptoms such as paranoia and voices. However, there are several ways a person with schizophrenia can work on their social skills and improve their social life. Individual and group therapy, which can provide Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for Psychosis and social skills training and practice, can be of great help (see previous blog posts about Meeting New People and Small Talk).

In addition, club houses and Cognitive Enhancement Therapy are two other resources that, where available, can be a powerful tool to improve the quality of one’s social life.

Club houses (also called Community Support Program) are clubs for people with mental illness, where there are activities and opportunities to meet others. They offer a straightforward approach of offering a place and the structure to meet new people and do fun things. They’ve been around for decades, and improved the lives of many people.

Cognitive Enhancement Therapy (CET), on the other hand, is one of the newer treatments for people with schizophrenia disorders. Still in the research phases, it is available in many larger universities’ research programs, and has shown great promise with social skills improvement. Here is the link to one man’s experience with CET.

Small Talk 2: Keeping a Conversation Going

Three Friends Laughing

To learn more about Getting a conversation started, refer to the blog earlier this year, Small Talk 1: Getting Started and Knowing What to Talk About.

Once you’ve started a conversation, there are a few different skills to keep it going. First, use “signals” to show you’re interested and to see if they are interested in the conversation.

Verbal signals are things you say to let the other person know you’re listening and interested, and things they say to let you know they’re listening and interested. Here are some examples:

  • saying “Yeah” or “Mmm-hmm” or “Uh-huh” or “Okay”
  • saying “I didn’t know that,” “I hadn’t heard that,” “That makes sense,” or “I never thought of it that way”
  • stay on the same topic that they are one, ask follow-up questions about that topic
  • watch out for topics that will make the other person uncomfortable or confused—if they seem uncomfortable, try changing the subject
  • respond within a very short time, or if you need time to gather your thoughts, you can say “Let me think about that,” or “Well…” or “Hmmm”
  • don’t interrupt
  • if they seem uncomfortable for any reason, try switching to a new subject

Ask yourself, “Is the other person giving me verbal signals that shows they’re interested? If they’re not, should I go ahead an end the conversation? Or maybe change the subject?

Nonverbal signals are ways you use your body to show that you’re listening and interested, and ways they use their body to show they’re interested and listening.

  • eye contact: look at them in the eye–not constantly, just every few seconds (this can be an especially challenging skill for people with schizophrenia, try practicing it if it’s hard for you)
  • nodding briefly then they’re talking, not all the time, just here and there
  • raising your eyebrows while nodding can show interest
  • voice volume should be loud enough to be heard easily, but not shouting
  • lean forward a little
  • make sure your face expression matches the emotion of the conversation (if someone’s talking about something funny, smile, and if they’re talking about something sad, have a serious expression); this can be a challenge for some people with schizophrenia, practice this skill if needed
  • don’t stand closer than arm’s length, face the person or stand kind of to the side

Are you giving signals that you’re interested? Are they? If they aren’t, think about ending the conversation or changing the subject.

If the other person is giving signals that they’re interested, but you’re not sure what to talk about, refer to Small Talk Part 1 earlier in this blog to get ideas of topics to starting talking about. Once you’ve started on a topic, you can ask follow-up questions to keep the conversation going. For example, if the person mentioned they are going to a baseball game this weekend, you could ask one of these follow-up questions:

  • “What do you think of how the Twins are doing this season?”
  • “Do you go to baseball games often?”
  • “What other sports do you watch?”
  • “Do you play any sports yourself?”
  • “Have you ever been to a St. Paul Saints game? They’re super fun.”

Another example of follow up questions would be if the person just said that they are going out to dinner with family this weekend:

  • “Where are you going? Do you like that restaurant?”
  • “My favorite restaurant is Pepito’s in Minneapolis, what’s yours?”
  • What’s your favorite type of food? Why?”
  • “I’m not a chef, but I do like cooking. Do you? What do you cook?”
  • “Do you have any restaurant recommendations?”

If you run out of questions or things to say about a topic, you can begin a new topic (see Small Talk 1-Appropriate Topics for Anyone in an earlier blog). If they still don’t seem interested or you can’t think of anything else to say, it might be time to end the conversation: see Small Talk 3-Ending a Conversation for helpful techniques for doing so.

Americans’ ignorance about schizophrenia

Unless they have a personal connection with schizophrenia, most people have a very poor understanding of schizophrenia, what it involves, and how common it is. Most of my schizophrenia clients are surprised to hear that, in the greater Twin Cities area, there are probably around 20,000-30,000 people with schizophrenia. People who don’t know a person with the illness often think of schizophrenia as causing violence, multiple personalities, and an inability to function like an adult. NAMI (National Alliance on Mental Illness) has done an extensive survey about Americans’ understanding of the knowledge, along with a report about what’s needed to increase understanding and some video clips outlining the true lives of people with schizophrenia.

Sad girl at car window

It’s no surprise people know so little about the illness–there’s always been a terrible stigma about all kinds of mental illness, and schizophrenia is one of the most stigmatized. In recent decades, more and more Americans have become familiar with illnesses like Major Depression, ADHD, and Autism Spectrum Disorders. But in general, people remain ignorant about schizophrenia. It seems like the only time the word “schizophrenia” comes up in the media is to report a crime or other negative story regarding people with the illness. We all know that in the news, negative sells better than positive, which may be why the general public has no knowledge of the millions of Americans with schizophrenia who get treated and live normal, everyday lives. (Imagine the headline: “Local woman with schizophrenia takes meds, lives a quiet life, enjoys bowling!” Ha!)

As time goes on and more and more mental illnesses come into Americans’ understanding, I hope that people affected by the illness and people who help treat the illness take the time to stop and share their stories about people with schizophrenia. I look forward to the day when the vast majority of people understand and accept that it is a treatable illness, that people with schizophrenia are like anyone else in most ways, and that people with schizophrenia, especially when getting the right treatment, can live regular lives in our communities as positive members of society.

Getting Support

group session

One thing I hear over and over again from clients and their family members is how lost they feel during the early stages of the illness. They don’t know anyone who talks about schizophrenia, and it seems like such a rare and difficult illness. Sometimes just getting connected with other people with schizophrenia and their families is a big step forward. has several forums with quite a few conversations going on, both for families and for the people with the diagnosis.